MAFS 12-21
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Commitment Ceremony. A dramatic night on the couch sees one couple leave and one groom’s story shocks the experts. First Broadcast: Sun, Mar 2, 2025
MAFS 12-21
Commitment Ceremony. A dramatic night on the couch sees one couple leave and one groom’s story shocks the experts.
tony is so full of utter crap and is brilliant at crying victim, his friends from the show and the fact that he was with adrian and sierah when they were doing their secret meetings behind awhina and billys back shows exactly who he really is, he needs to grow up and act his age, crying it in how morena is at fault for everything but he’s not leaving, its embarrassing
All of this!
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Morena is NO prize. She’s weaponized her past trauma and has clearly confused speaking up for herself with SPEAKING OVER others and her “my way or the highway” emotional demands (an ever-moving series of goalposts) are going to continue to be a challenge for her. What she thinks is “confidence” is presenting and unyielding and unforgiving emotional aggression.
But with ALL of that…Tony is a piece of work. He is SO SO insidiously passive-aggressive and hides it behind a very practiced “happy Tony!” facade. The continuing to pretend that he is confused by Morena’s (over the top BUT) understandable annoyance and anger at his lack of emotional engagement (which he’s convinced everyone else he’s been doing) is crazy-making.
And the whole dumbshow of “why is she leaving?” is the final straw.
Unfortunately, guys like Tony will be looked upon as the victim because of the (lucky for him) pairing of a woman who is overcompensating for past treatment. SHE “looks” (but is NOT) unhinged and HE looks like “poor Tony”. He’s a walking red flag.
you articulated my thoughts so aptly. I’ve felt this way about Morena v. Tony for so long.
Wow ! What a great comment . You have explained exactly how she is
It is painfully obvious that Adrian is a narcissist and Athena is an empath. The way she looks to him before she is even allowed to speak, his self-righteous grins, ugh!!! I can see it so plainly because I have lived in many times over. Please Athena, leave!!
awhina is so f dumb, she needs to leave!!!! like why are u still having second thoughts like are u moron
you made me laugh thx
As soon as as I saw her STAY…i was done with her.
This is NOT legal and she is NOT contractually bound to him OR to staying and NOW…whatever her issues are with his gaslighting ass…are ALL on her. Again…she’s concerned about the time away from her child BUT she stays for THIS? For Adrian? They clearly pay more the longer you stay but I need her to stop complaining about his behavior now. She accepts it and she co-signs it. What a way to tell the world you’ll be a public doormat for the right price.
she’s staying because the experts are enabling his behavior!! like what?!?!? dave literally called him out and the expert goes “so awfina what do you like about him?” like he’s already controlling her and making her feel crazy and the experts did absolutely 0 to address it NOTHING
They completely gaslit her. It was hard to watch, especially when they went all in on Paul.
People like Veronica have a problem with the world not going the way they imagine or expect it to go. She’s undermining, judgemental, lacks empathy, and thinks shes smarter and better than him. It’s a shame. I feel so bad for Elliot, but then again, I console myself with “you wanted a child”. There you go…
These experts have no clue what they are talking about, Clint washes dishes and does laundry and isn’t classed as a man, are they ok
I feel they really are to hard on Paul, I lived the life with an abuser , got out alive. I truly think they are to hard on him. now Adirian is an abuser no doubt , Jackie is sly and a bit of a wahhh baby , they may be right for each other . Veronica was ruined by Lauren .
With all due respect, if you lived the life with an abuser, clearly you aren’t too keen on seeing another. Paul’s actions were a FLAMING red flag. Bless you for opening up, but also take a seat when you are due one.
totally agree! that punch was meant for her, imagine if there were no cameras and no repercussions, punching a wall because she said she slept with a rapper is crazy work, there’s going to be an escalation
if it was meant for her, she’d be on the ground.
I agree. As a woman, I’ve punched a wall in my time, and it was because I would not punch a person. Adrian raises way more flags than Paul, who readily recognized and owned up to his mistake.
On a personal note, I’m glad you got out alive.
Veronica is an actress by profession and is terrible at it
A man who is comfortable washing dishes and/or clothes is not any less masculine… he’s someone who is very secure in his manhood. Lauren should be living in the 1950s. Up until now, I thought Awhina was smart … but she proved me wrong today. Why is she choosing to stay away from her child, only to be abused by this ‘man child’ ??? ..and Carina on her way to a serious DV situation… the way she makes excuses for him, comforting him, and allowing him to behave badly. That’s how it escalates… and it will
i feel like this was Awhina’s chance to say how she feels and what’s been happening and she still allowed him to coach her and tell her what she can and can’t say, if she stays with Adrien and introduces him to her child I would be worried for their safety.
Lauren’s alpha shit is so cringe. First of all, the whole alpha concept is ridiculous and unfounded. Secondly as you stated, a man who is comfortable taking care of himself is much more masculine that a dude who demands his wife “mother” him. And they did Awhina really wrong here.
Oh Awhina ! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Whispering on the side “Don’t tell me what to say”… and you said it more than once. Then, you turn around and look to him for permission to answer the expert’s question. PLEASE ! Like his family said, when they were talking smack about you…. .you can wrap shit in a pretty little package…and it’s still shit! Throw that giant heap of dog shit, in the bin. He doesn’t give a rat’s ass for your feelings. I am appauld at the experts not calling him out, on how he kept looking over at the other couples, winking and smiling and even verbalizing how he isn’t a bad guy. You know why he is always smirking and smiling? Because he has her right where he wants her…doing his bidding. Makes me sick. I PRAY she doesn’t let this narcissitic, egotistical, holier than thou, a-hole, anywhere NEAR her child. He is right up there with Jack, of Jack & Tori (a.k.a Jerk, Jack-off) from last season. Morena is like a bull in a china shop. She and phony Tony…were doomed from the start. I hope that Karina and Paul can get through this…and I hope he takes the opportunity to get the counseling that has been offered. Having survived an abusive marriage (that almost cost me my children’s lives) I pray that he is not acting remorseful and not truly meaning it. I love Jamie and Dave more and more and more. I am crushing on him. Who wouldn’t? He (and Jeff too ) seem like rare gems.
Everything you said!
Sorry but the grovelling towards Carina on her leg when she is talking is just gross. Reaks of desperation knowing it will be aired on national tv.
Lauren’s personality is a classic fun killer 1/10. Loves to give out criticism and expects everyone to love her in return. Lol
Jacqui’s face looks like a cross between Michael Jackson and a bullfrog.
OMG LOL
I always see the grinch when she smiles.
The experts do not allow physical violence–and understandably so–but they are perfectly fine with emotional and psychological abuse. They’re sick.
Came here to say that! Adrian’s behavior is at least as abusive, and much more insidious. Talk about gaslighting! The pro’s did that to Awhina.
Why is no one talking about Morenas enterance? Are you kidding me? She acts like a bulldog, trying to intimadate EVERYONE. Lady-with this attitude you will stay single af.
she was always so in your face about everything. tony is lucky to ditch her. not that he was a prize but the ‘experts’ really screwed up on that relationship.
Awhina, never had an issue before with speaking her mind, but today she “cares” about Adrain? Something happened that we didn’t see… this is weird!! I feel they just want to stay on the show for views and for social media likes! SMH GROW UP!!! Awhina you are an IDIOT!!
Think they’re staying for the Retreat getaway mostly.
So the rapper Corina slept with Quavo!!!
Where did you read that 😮
Like everyone else, why did the experts let Adrian get off with his obvious controlling ways and then hammer Paul mercilessly? You can tell what kind of “man” Adrian is by his constant smirking.
Adrian is so abusive it’s driving me completely insane. Why are the experts not calling this out????? And I feel so sad awhina feels like she has to stay and doesn’t deserve more.
She also makes me angry for allowing this guy dictate and gaslight her..she is sooo beautiful but everythime she is asked whats wrong g she cannot articulate or get her points out in the clear to the experts and actually punctuation man in his place
I think Veronica is plain stupid. How can you listen to that story and not get ANYTHING out of it, unless you are literally a brainless and emotionless robot.
I cannot believe there are such people in this world yhoooo
Why the hell are the judges appeasing Lauren’s whims? Her views on a perfectly healthy happening in a relationship are extremely toxic and set back progress by decades. Stop promoting helpless little boys who don’t know how to cook/clean/do laundry. Being a woman doesn’t mean being a free maid/slave in the house while your husband does all the less “dirty” tasks. What is wrong with these judges AND Lauren??? How can you just tell this perfectly good man to behave in a backwards manner to appease Lauren because those are her “needs”? What if she said that she wants him to slap her any time she folds something wrong, because she sees “alpha male” as that, would they also be cool with that? what a weird ass show, truly. This is the worst season for mental health, of both the participants and viewers. Disgraceful.
Lauren’s attitude gives me the creeps. I have a feeling (and I hope I’m wrong) that she’d be quite happy to be slapped around a bit if she didn’t clean the kitchen floor properly. There are such women.
he isn’t really an Alpha .. maybe business? He can watch some old movies or reruns of Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best.
The thing is, these are Lauren’s deal breakers. Who are the judges to attempt to change her whole personality? It’s harmless. I never saw a human who loved doing dishes lol. If that makes her happy, and she wants to be a loving housewife and mother, who is it hurting? Im sure she isn’t going to set back 2025 to 1950, although it does sound nice for the most part. Do you think some woman in Nebraska is going to tell her husband he doesn’t have to do dishes any more?
Red flag red flag red flag. You better pay attention. If he is hitting the door he will hit you next and there was not a tear in his eye. I didn’t see anything drop and the way he was holding on her tight. I don’t know about him red flag.
no.. I strongly disagree. I was married to a man like that (doors and people). Paul doesn’t have the personality. Also, he didn’t call her the names that a violent man would have.. The person you are describing would have called her a fu%^Ing Wh)*)*e. He is so remorseful. The tears were real. please watch it again.. you will see tears. I hope you’re wrong, anyway.
They were being too hard and judgemental on Paul. I wish they were that hard on Veronica, she was psychologically abusive. It is obvious Paul has very strong feelings for her and got overwhelmed. Also being on this show is a pressure cooker, and I can imagine his emotions are running higher than usual. In my experience, I’ve known men who have hit walls and have never touched another person and never would. Yet I’ve known men who have never hit walls, but have threatened to punch me. He didn’t hit her nor threaten to hit her and was clearly broken up about it. Give him some grace. And not just in this instance, but the experts get on my nerves quite regularly. They are often very judgemental but also turn a blind eye to manipulative behavior as well.
I agree. Tell me that none of those men would react in some way if their wife bragged “I banged Travis Scott” or whatever rapper that was on the radio, in front of their friends. I think she’s the one who should be scolded. He knew to hit an object, not a person. I don’t think she thinks she did anything wrong.
Veronica gets uglier and uglier each episode
punching a wall is no freaked big deal. he didn’t hit her. people need to stfu and move on.
omg, they dragged this poor guy thru the mud for freaked ever. he punched a f-ing wall. he was OBVIOUSLY devastated by it. get him some help, don’t rip him apart.
I agree. I just said to my son “you’d think he stabbed all the contestants in their sleep” the way they are carrying on. My ex husband is a firey Italian. I can only imagine if I said that in front of his friends. I’d have been lucky if it were only a hole in a door.
I cannot believe how the judges are acting. Im sure John Aiken would really be laughing if his wife said she banged some gangsta rapper , in front of his friends… oh yeah.
poor clint. this woman is a real ‘B’ hiding behind her June Cleaver facade..